Everything Simon Jordan said on Kyril Louis-Dreyfus, Stewart Donald, Charlie Methven and Sunderland fans

Kyril Louis-Dreyfus conducted an interview with talkSPORT yesterday with plenty of talk following the Sunderland owner’s words.

Thursday, 27th May 2021, 1:00 pm

Reports this week had suggested that the Black Cats boss could leave as a result of the club’s play-off disappointment but Louis-Dreyfus is determined to stick to the vision he set out upon taking over the club, where he stressed the importance of not panicking in the face of short-term setbacks.

In an interview with talkSPORT, he said that Johnson was the ‘right man’ to lead the club’s promotion push next season.

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Sunderland chairman Kyril Louis-Dreyfus (right) looks on from the main stand during the Papa John's Trophy Semi-Final match between Sunderland and Lincoln City at Stadium of Light.

He said: “Lee Johnson was a long-term appointment from the start,” Louis-Dreyfus said.“We all knew that regardless of the outcome of this season, he will be with us for next season."

And former Crystal Palace owner Simon Jordan was quick to discuss the 24-year-old Black Cats owner’s comments on the Jim White show on Wednesday afternoon.

Here, we take a look at everything the talkSPORT pundit had to say:

Simon Jordan on Kyril Louis-Dreyfus and Sunderland’s future

“He’s a confident and educated young man. You can tell his father was a billionaire.

“Look, I was 31 when I bought Palace which was very young and this is even younger and it’s a different dynamic of a club in a different part of the world that has had some success recently but not for some time.

“He’s going to be hampered by a couple of things because if the EFL have their way, they are going to try and get a salary cap or some form of salary cap in place to limit the amount of spending that can be done.

“So irrespective of how wealthy he is, he’s not just going to be able to splash the cash mentality and do what he wants. I think it’s right that he keeps his counsel about how he feels about the loss of the play-offs. Because ultimately, it’s a new thing for him and it’s better to be pragmatic about his opinion."

Simon Jordan on Lee Johnson, Stewart Donald and Charlie Methven

"Lee Johnson is a decent football manager and Sunderland has a lot of energy behind it with a lot of fans and they’ll be looking for him to do something the other guys didn’t.

“If these guys are who we believe them to be then they are a very different set of animals to the previous owners. Stewart Donald and Charlie Methven went in there and it was never a fit to me.

“They leveraged Sunderland’s own money which was taking the parachute payments and discounting them in order to acquire the club.

“That’s not quite the same as these guys coming in with an innate ability to be able to fund this club and push this football club further forward, notwithstanding what I’ve just said about potential salary caps.

"It is very important for him [Louis-Dreyfus] – without anyone telling him what he should do because we all need to learn and make our own mistakes – but when I first walked into Palace I was told we didn’t do things a certain way.

“Well, the way they were doing things had got them into serious trouble so I think we’ll have a go at doing it my way, so he has to be definite in his views. They’ve got to be educated and counselled and not just walk in there like a bull in a china shop.”

Simon Jordan on the structure at Sunderland and the use of agents

“He is as good, to some extent, as the people he puts around him. Irrespective of whether he has come from a great deal of wealth and his father’s past, he doesn’t know English football and he doesn’t know the landscape or League One.

“You can’t do anything about not having experience so you buy some alongside you and get some proper people who can come in alongside you but what does that look like?

“It looks like it needs to get you out of League One. Okay, what does a successful team that gets out of League One look like? It might look like Sheffield United. Okay, what were the characteristics of their players? What do we need to do to be able to get this club out of League One?

“And he would do well to steer away from some of the agents who might be buzzing around who might be thinking, ‘Aye, aye… halcyon days again at Sunderland.’ And get some sensible people in alongside him.”

Simon Jordan on Sunderland supporters and the Stadium of Light

“Their supporters… and I don’t mean to be disrespectful to them in any shape or form and this is not me attempting to be so.

“But their support is very odd. When we played them in a play-off semi-final in 2004 when Mick McCarthy was the manager, we beat them 3-2 at Selhurst Park so they were well in the game.

“We go up to the Stadium of Light thinking that it was going to be an absolute cauldron and that it was going to be full to the rafters - and it wasn’t. It was nowhere near full to the rafters.

“So I think Sunderland have built this 48,000-seater stadium and I think the idea that it gets filled on a regular basis and that there’s this huge enthusiasm that can be easily harnessed, I’m not so sure that’s quite how it is.”

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