History dictates our immigration
IN J Young’s letter (Echo, August 22) he makes some sweeping statements about our monarchy and social history in other countries.
I am not a great advocate of the Royal Family. I think there are too many there making an easy living, but I have to admit republics are not that much better. No one can ever convince me that one system is better than the other.
Regarding the five countries J Young mentions whose population are eager to get into Britain, starting with Poland, which has always had a strong association with this country: it is why the Second World War was declared when Hitler refused to withdraw from invading that country in 1939; Ireland was left virtually bankrupt after achieving independence in 1922 by a treaty, that left the farmers of the country paying compensation to departed English landlords for another 40 years so they could own their land once again; Pakistan and India, once one country ruled by Britain until they got their independence after the last war.
I am not sure about Romania’s historical association with this country, but most of the countries mentioned provided the manpower to help build up this country when economic times were much better than now.
British contractors and their workers have travelled all over the world on various projects. I spent two years in Poland, then under Communist rule, in the late 70s helping to construct a plastics complex along with another 2,000 Brits. Also, during the 70s and 80s there were thousands from these islands working in Germany and Holland in the construction industry. Recent history proves it was not a one-way ticket for some workers.
Slavery was abolished in this country about 60 years before the Americans got round to doing it. Even then, the working conditions were not all that much better at that time when one recalls 10-year-old boys down the coal mines and the working conditions in those dark satanic mills. Was that not a type of slavery? Nearly all so-called civilised countries have had a civil war at one time in their history, always about power and wealth. Some use religion and the lack of education of their countrymen to try to obtain political power in this day and age.
A lot of countries have a very long way to go before achieving proper democracies.
A A Kelly, Tunstall Vale, Sunderland
What fantastic rose coloured glasses J. Young must wear. Did he get them off David cameron or George Osborne?
The U.S. has become the stongest power the world, Britain has turned into a joke with no aircraft carriers or planes and thousands of soldiers made reduntant.
The British Empire on which the sun never set and (the blood never dried) commited numerous atrocities on its people, including the native indians of Canada, creating the horrendous method of scalping by paying a bounty for the natives who would not toe the British line.
Even in the 20th century they created the first concentration camps in South Africa to house the women and children of the Boers they then starved and gave bully beef laced with barbs from barbed wire with the resulting terrible deaths.#
Yugoslavia and Czeckoslovacia were manufactured countries by the allies after the First World War.
The views of the ethnic Croats, Serbs, and Bosnians were just as ignored as the natives of Wales,Scotland,and Ireland were oppressed and killed if they revolted.
The emancipation of slaves was worthy, but the wage slaves of Britain were treated worse.
Women and children were sent down the mines and into mills, little boys were sent up chimneys and all living in atrocious conditions.
Look at Sunderland’s history: the cholera epidemics caused through filthy, disgusting conditions while the ones who profited from it moved well away from the conditions they had created.
They even built Mowbray Park, not for the workers, but to build a barrier between them and the deceased, stinking hoi polloi.
With your highly selective views and memory, you could make a politician.
Michael Dodds, Westfield Grove, Sunderland
Cross over crossing
I SHARE the concerns of Mr P. S. Thompson, (Road system fears, Echo July 23), highlighting the redevelopment of the Wheatsheaf, Monkwearmouth road system by Tesco, apparently under the supervision of the city council’s highways department.
Dave Smith, chief executive of Sunderland City Council, has signed a Traffic Order, displayed at these works which states: “A safe route for pedestrian will be provided at all times”.
The reality of this is that the existing pedestrian crossing has been closed/removed across North Bridge Street opposite Stagecoach offices and no temporary crossing here has been provided which the Traffic Order requires.
Bus passengers, pedestrians and Stagecoach bus crews are forced to play Russian roulette though four streams of fast traffic to cross here.
G. White, Sunderland
Time to go Dutch
Marjorie Matthews is correct in what she says regarding the Dutch intergation bill which states that immigrants who come to live in the Netherlands, learn the Dutch Language and obey the Dutch laws, (Echo, August 25).
Sharia law and forced marriages along with the burka will be banned from January 2013.
It is time in our country that we adopted the same laws here
It is time we stopped the Euro bureaucrats telling us what we can and can’t do.
We should also scrap the Human Rights Act and bring our own British Rights Act.
We should stop pussyfooting around these issues and come out and be able to speak about them in the open.
This then may bring intergration a step closer as at the moment, I don’t see this happening in my life time.
George Gibson, Sunderland
A dangerous path
Ah, the BNP’s “truth truck2 hit the buffers on Saturday. It’s a pity the air couldn’t be let out of these Far Right windbags permanently, as was the fate of the trucks tyres in order to dislodge it.
I’ve heard Nick Griffin’s boasts about how the North East is primed to fall into their hands at the next election. By God, I hope not. These spurious politicians should make the unpopular Tories look like well-meaning uncles and aunts in comparison.
My concern is not everyone will be so turned off by these BNP extremists. There seems to have been a rise in their involvement around Sunderland of late.
Then we have calls to “burn books” by Clare Phillipson. Although the campaigns and intentions are quite different, I can’t help but see an edgy link forming here.
As much as I’m sick of hearing about 50 Shades, and know where Clare Phillipson is coming from, we are moving into nervous times.
As a Jewish poet once wrote of the first book burnings in Germany in the 1800s: “Man who burns books, does eventually burn people.”
G. Engel, High Barnes
Put a roof on stadium
Considering the millions spent in erecting the Stadium of Light, why oh why did they not put an electric roof on it?
I know it was discussed, but rejected. At the time it would have cost a mere £110,000.
I feel sorry for all the Reading supporters who came all that way to be told an hour before kick-off the game was off because of rain.
So let’s get our act together and put one on now.
I am a pensioner and have sat in the stands freezing.
David Rogers, Byron Street, Monkwearmouth